Podcast: Kimi K3.1 Pro, the new cyber reality, and Muse musings

We — Nathan and Florian — wanted to discuss all the messy trade-offs of a busy week in AI and ask all the pressing questions like: Why did Kimi K3.1 Pro have a mixed reaction with such incredible benchmarks? Will it be adopted? Were we wrong about the risks of open-weight models and cybersecurity? Why do cyber experts discuss recent events so differently than AI experts? What comes next in the few months? What will change our minds? We will write more about this subject, but wanted to bring you behind the curtain as we aspire to quickly learn more about the cybersecurity industry and trends across the last few years that have been leading us today. We conclude the podcast with some lighter topics, from Muse-maxing to excitement in still hiring junior technical talent. Please send us questions and topics, as we plan to record more of these podcasts going forward. Share Listen on Apple Podcasts , Spotify , and wherever you get your podcasts . For other Interconnects podcasts, go here . YouTube ↓ Chapters 00:00 Kimi K3.1 Reaction 08:15 Kimi’s open-weight cyber principles 11:23 You can hack everything era 15:54 PHP2Shell, LiteLLM, and the new internet 24:00 Abliterated APIs, safeguards, and trusted access 31:41 Anthropic not hiring juniors employees 36:16 Florian’s Muse addiction 45:30 Wrap-up Links we discuss My thread with Dean Ball about the “boy who cried wolf” story of the frontier labs Kimi K3.1 Pro announcement blog Kimi K3.1 Pro on Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index Kimi K3.1 on Artificial Analysis defensive cyber benchmarks Program Bench Open-weight Mythos would’ve been fine take PHP “hasn’t caused a disaster yet” update Abliteration.ai serving abliterated models API Morph serving abliterated DeepSeek via API Joshua Saxe’s Substack on AI and cybersecurity Azeem Azhar, “The internet’s Wuhan moment” Anthropic, “How employment is changing at Anthropic” LiteLLM security incident report Transcript 00:00:00 Nathan Lambert: We are back with another Interconnects podcast. We are with Florian, eval guy, recently moved to SF. Florian, is Kimi K3.1 Pro , name is a mouthful, going to live up to the benchmark scores, for example on Artificial Analysis , or where is it going to land? 00:00:17 Florian Brand: In the past, the Kimi models always lived up to the expectations, but this release is kind of weird compared to the others. I think it is also partially …